Black Widow MA Silver Anniversary

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BLiZ
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Black Widow MA Silver Anniversary

Postby BLiZ » Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:34 am

Here's a question for the forum's history buffs that's related to my last post. Were all MAs made between 1982 and 1984 (I think the MAIIs were introduced in 1985) designated as "Silver Anniversary", or only the MAs made in 1982?

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Bill

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Re: Black Widow MA Silver Anniversary

Postby ray_hill » Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:18 pm

Bill:

You could buy an M-A in 82-83-84.The MA II Greybark was offered in 1985.I have seen 83s and 84s marked as "Silver Anniversary".
The 1982 Silver Annivery brochure reads like this on the finish, Model M-A--Sealed and protected in a buffed, non-reflective clear epoxy finish.
Hope this helps.

Regards,Ray

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Re: Black Widow MA Silver Anniversary

Postby BLiZ » Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:50 pm

Thanks for the help. I appreciate your input. Bill

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Re: Black Widow MA Silver Anniversary

Postby Hawk » Mon Oct 28, 2019 2:47 am

X2 what Ray says.
We met Ken Beck in May of 83 at the Fox River Park District Shoot in Aurora, Illinois.
MAs or Maple Anniversary for the 25th anniversary of the company were offered for 3 years in order to keep interest in Widow's first ever wood risered T/D.
If I remember correctly, it cost $389, but an all black, MB or Maple Black was $90 less.
My buddy bought an MA, I went for the cheaper MBs in 83 and 84.
I sold my two MBs to get a new Dacron rated MA II Greybark in May of 85, then sold that to get a Fast Fast rated MA II Greybark when they came out in 1988.
The one piece Crown Jewel for the 30th anniversary was actually offered for two years. 1987s were Dacron rated and 1988 with serial numbers higher than 6782 were Fast Flight rated.
The 40th, 50th, & 60th Anniversary bows were only offered for one year, 1997, 2007, & 2017 respectively.
Hawk

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Re: Black Widow MA Silver Anniversary

Postby BLiZ » Mon Oct 28, 2019 5:28 am

Thanks for the help & information about the MAs. Someone should compile all of this historic info on older Black Widow bows in an archive post.

I need a new string for my MA. Other than 3 Rivers, do either of you know of a good source for an endless loop Dacron B-50 / B-55 string? I could order a Flemish splice string from BWBC but would kind of like to replace it with another endless loop.

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Re: Black Widow MA Silver Anniversary

Postby Hawk » Mon Oct 28, 2019 7:55 am

Wilson Brothers kept excellent records on their production / shipping from 1957 through mid 1976 when they retired and sold the business to one of their Bowyers.
Roger told me that this second owner did not keep decent records, but when Ken Beck purchased the company from this man in February of 1982, Ken bought back good documentation.
So there is a 5 1/2 year "black hole," as Roger puts it, in the production records. Sometimes a request comes in and they have no clue as to build and ship dates, etc.
But, it was my understanding that since this was during the compound revolution, this second owner wasn't too busy building bows.
As far as info on Widows, it's my understanding that "Widowman" Ray Hill who first posted on your thread has researched a lot of their history. Ray is considered one of the best on this subject.
As far as strings, as you know, a lot of stock endless strings have larger loops for wider limbs than what would be used on a narrower Widow limb.
Allen Shafer at Ten Ring Bowstrings is a popular "after market" string maker for Widow Owners as well as place called Mountain Muffler Strings.
Perhaps these makers could help you out.
Hawk

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Re: Black Widow MA Silver Anniversary

Postby BLiZ » Mon Oct 28, 2019 9:35 am

Thanks Hawk. I'll check the string makers you recommended.

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Re: Black Widow MA Silver Anniversary

Postby leftyfred » Wed Nov 06, 2019 1:03 pm

Mr. Ray Hill is the historian for Black Widow. Ray introduced me to the old bows and filled me with knowledge. I will forever be grateful.


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