Three Under - Robert L.

About a month ago I decided To see if I could improve my accuracy by going three fingers under instead of split-finger. At first it was awkard and I was shooting way too low. I kept at it however and soon learned that I had to aim a bit higher than the spot I wanted to hit. Yesterday I surprised myself... In every flight (six arrows per flight) @ 20 or 25 yds I was able to score in the gold with at least two, sometimes three arrows! I find that shooting 3 under is much more comfortable than split-finger, I don't torque the bow or twist the string. Not to mention the fact that my callus is slowly disappearing. I most probably will not go back to split-finger style shooting unless I want to handicap myself. Not that there is anything wrong with the split-finger style it has served me for nigh on fifty-two years, I just find that personally 3 under is better for me

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January 22nd, 2013 11:01:28am

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Might i suggest going to the BW Shooting Clinic in May. G. Fred Asbell, i believe covers the topic very well. He explains how the differences between Split Finger and 3 Under affect instinctive shooting and arrow flight. I found attending very beneficial, as well as a heck of a good time with a great bunch of guys.

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January 22nd, 2013 11:01:19am

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Also, forgot to mention that they feed you well also. But then again, you wouldn't expect anything less then the best from the Black Widow Guys.

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Robert L.
January 22nd, 2013 04:01:07pm
What you say is true "recurved" "nothing but the best" However I must decline your invitation I simply cannot afford the $400 + dollers not to mention the travel expenses.

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Bofish-il
January 23rd, 2013 05:01:59pm

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I shoot left handed Robert I have tried several times to shoot 3 under and like you I shot so low it was in the dirt at 15 yards. I realize you need to aim higher but if I have to aim high to hit at 15 yards I would have to aim over the target at 20 & 25 yards. Then at 30 I would need to shoot at the tree limbs above the target. I must be doing something wrong because I can not make it work for me. I also shoot way to the right and cannot figure that out.

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Robert L.
January 24th, 2013 02:01:21am
I'll try to help Bofish. 1st. What is the bow weight @ your DL? 2d. what is the spine weight of your shafts? 3d. what is the point weight of your Fpts and/or BHs? From what you have stated I would guess that your arrows are too stiff... but until you post more information that's all I can say.

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Bofish-il
January 30th, 2013 02:01:30pm

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Robert been to Kalamazoo. I shoot my Sa2 59# @28" but I only pull 27". I shoot a Heritage 150 28" with 200 grains in the point. These bare shaft good to 20 Yards with split finger. When I try to shoot 3 finger under they are low which I expect but not a foot to the right.

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Robert L.
January 31st, 2013 09:01:25am
Bofish I'm abit confused by your answer but will answer as best I can. You state that you only pull to 27" so your 59# bow is only shooting about 55# which is a good hunting weight. your points, if I'm reading this correctly are 200gr weight which weakens the spine of the arrow. using 125 gr weight points as a beginning you are 75grs. heavier which translates to 49# bow weight still a good weight for hunting. My points range from 145gr to 160grs. a 15 gr. weight diffrence and both shoot close to the same. As do 125 and 145 gr. points which is a 20 gr. diffrence so you can vary the gr weights within a 15b ir 20 gr diffrence and get just about the same results. It's when you jump beyond that reange say from 125 grs. to 150 or higher that there is a noticeable diffrence in flight carateristics. I usually gap about 6 to 8" higher than the spot I want the arrow to hit when shooting three under @ 20 or 25yds. My 62" bow is 47# @ my DL of 29 2/3 " or 30" if I round it off. yours being close to mine in weight (if my math is right) should be about the same in height above the spot you want to hit. I still don't know your arrow spine weight however. So I could be way wrong.

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Bofish-il
January 31st, 2013 01:01:58pm

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When I did my bare shaft with the heritage 150 and a 125 gr. point I was hitting to the right about 4 inches at 15 yards and the distance increased with yardage. Stu Millers chart with my info added showed I needed to add weight at the point to weaken the spine. I tried 50 grain brass inserts and was still shooting to the right some so I added 75grain brass inserts and the arrows were dead on. My arrow weighs 480 gr. setup like this. The only reason I can figure I am shooting right is that with 3 under it is changing something to make the arrows to stiff again. They fly and hit great split finger.

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Robert L.
February 1st, 2013 10:02:40am
It takes paicence and practice Bofish. It could be that when shooting 3 under you are rolling the string. I read a lot on archery and what to do however when I do as the book says I find myself shotgun pattering on the target. I return to what I was doing before and my groups tighten up considerably. Unfourtunely I have listened and read so much on tuning and shooting that I stayed confused for years. A goodly number of my arrows are overspined because I listened to not-so-sound advice. So I learned to compensate, if my arrows fly left, (I'm right handed but left-eye domanate) I pick a spot on the right at which to aim and keep picking spots until I find the sweet one that allows my shafts to hit center or very close to center. I have learned to shut my left eye and aim with my right one. When shooting 3 under you have to gap, I found that out in a short time. My point-on is 46 feet still have to aim high when doing the 3 under drill however but my arrow's pile is centered and will five times out of six land in the gold if I do my part. brace height plays a part in hitting where you want to the lower the BH on my bow the further to the left the arrow goes, the higher the closer to the center your mileage may vary. It took me a while but I now know what to do when shooting 3under my biggest problem is doing it consistantly. All I can say is constantly check your form, if you shoot dead -on with split fingers than continue on that path. If you want to learn 3 under too than practice practice practice do what's comfortable for you.
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